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well many things but here are some questions to think about in terms of who is teaching it

are they teaching it because they are paid to by an expensive profession such as the medical and pharmaceutical  one or are they teaching it so students can first of all understand themselves or at least help open space in communities where a psychological problem is huge but not discussed through the schooling systems

is this subject being taught in a country where the media helps people get kinder and kinder or madder and madder - a lot lof media calls itself social but embedded in are all sorts of addictive hidden persuaders - read 1950s books on this eg by dichter - they are extremely honest on how to manipulate minds (how do you know if conscious or subconscious is driving you, and ask the same question about the whole grouop of people you most commonly mix with)

-note that before mass television it was largely true that stories across generations were the main cultural belief system of a country - mass television often wipes out all the common sense that previous generations of a nation trusted most

if you think i am being cycnica search georghe patton and the lancet - tuhey have discovered proavly the most valuable knowledge for 9 to 14 yeras never taught - they prefer to call it peer to per adolescent health - what topics like girls menstruiation would  a girl really be preferred to be mentored in by eg a kindly edlder suster than any other form of teacher- it turns out that the brain in adoelscent hyeras was designed to be mlost active least efectively unsed sitting pasively in a classroom - so the very moaaldity of learner centred teaching confirms the value of peer to peer adolescent health

some of us have been given the trust to look at how this  curriculum spreads in places that mlost need it .like west baltimore or bangladesh's poorest vilage families where the whole subjevct of girl empowermnet is absolutely critical to developing communities and nation sustainably

these contents are from a standardised text book- it would surprise me if they are pro-youth but lets see as we have time to question them

1 introductaion and research methods

Psychological processes

2 neurscience and behavior

3 sensation and perception

4 consciousness and its variations

BASIC PSYCHOLOGICAL PROCESSES

5 learning

6 memory

7 thinking language and intelligence

8 motivation and emotion

DEVELOPMENT OF XSELF

9 Lifespan Development

10 Gender and Sexuality

11 Personality

PERSON IN SOCIAL CONTEXT

13 Stress, Health and Coping

14 Pyschiological disorders

15 Thgerapies

Appendix

A staistics - understanding data

B Industrial/Organsistional psychology

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1 introduction and research methods

what subjects existed before psychology - book says philosophy (eg study course on ethics) and physiology

Physiology (/ˌfɪziˈɒlədʒi/; from Ancient Greek φύσις (physis), meaning "nature, origin", and -λογία (-logia), meaning "study of") is the scientific study of the normal function in living systems.

(have you seen pbs series mercy street - based in alexandria during civil war its medical diagnoses are often bases on rather cride physiology of the toime - remember there were no xrays etc so what really went on inside tghe body was subject to quite a lot of trail and error by surgeons and their knives'

 

this book claims these founders of psychology

wilhelm wundht psychology

edward titchener structuralism

william james functionalism

Siegmund Freud Psychoanalysis 

John Watson Behaviorism

Carl Rogers Humanistic Psychology

i have to mention gthat while my first job accidentally involved tutoring girl undergraduates at university of leeds only carl rogers was popular then in the 1970s - Freud of course is every bluffers guide to describing how parental attachment may have too deeply influenced you though i think he wasnt quyite as expert as he believed himself to be- the cafact that io have never stidied teh first 3 names reflects ignorakince on my part but also this was a subect whose origins probably developed slowly with so much to discuss about the hukman mind than any one person could by himself write up; the way people behave is something i have stidied more than anyione as far as television imoacts them - now thats a diferent subject than the one watson explored

Contemporary Psycholgy - lets come back to this

Scuentrific Method- This was actially what i was mainly tehre to tutor studnets on - i have to say that professors of psychology have views on scientific method that I believe are dangerous-0 they feel under such pressure to get funding/fame for psychology as if it were a "science" -

Descriptive Research - this is a method that can be very good buyt it has to be said psuycholgists and those who do professional surveys of what peopel think and do (eg me - often use widely varying methods)

Experimental Research - lets leave this for the moment but note a problem why woulkd a human being want to be a psychiolagist's guines pigs - that literally why a lot of psychology research was initailly done on rats which i dont feel can be extrapolated from to human beings

Ethics in Psychiolgica Research-  

george patton discussion on adolescent health service needs

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In the last few lectures, we've talked about the broader ways in which family, peers, and community can support young people's healthy development. We've considered how laws, taxation, marketing, and social media shape healthy and unhealthy ideas about what it is to be young, healthy, happy, and successful. 

Outmoded notions of adolescence as the healthiest stage of life have also inadvertently been associated with beliefs about health services. If young people are healthy, we don't need to think about health services for them, do we? 

But, having outlined the range of health issues experienced by young people across the globe, I hope it's pretty clear that young people, just like infants, adults, and older folk, also benefit from health services. 

The increasing global attention now being given to universal health coverage has strong resonance with adolescents, whose health needs have arguably been most neglected by health services. 

The next few lectures will focus on health services, and the role they can play in responding to young people's comprehensive health needs, rather than their role to simply respond to what young people present with. 

One important consideration about health services is quality. 

What comes to mind when you think about quality health services for adolescents? Clearly, one aspect is that health services need to understand the burden of disease experienced by young people in order to be able to respond. 

Health services also need to appreciate what adolescents seek help for, and what they don't seek help for. And understand the barriers that prevent adolescents from seeking health care more widely. 

Understanding provider attitudes, knowledge, and skills is also a critical consideration in planning quality healthcare services for the young, in order that teaching and training can help obviate these. 

The most common reasons that adolescents present to primary healthcare are for acute healthcare needs, such as accidents and injuries, infections, including upper respiratory tract infections, coughs and colds, and skin conditions. 

So, how does this sit with our knowledge of the burden of disease that young people experience, that I've attempted to describe in this schema here? 

Clearly, there is a gap. 

Young people less commonly seek health services for the conditions that have the greatest impact on their burden of disease, both now, as well as in the future. 

One example of this is mental disorders. This figure depicts the burden of mental disorder in Australia by age as measured by DALYs. We can appreciate that if health services do not have a strong understanding of adolescence as the time of the greatest upswing in the incidence of mental disorder, they will be less able to deliver quality healthcare to the young. 

Why? Because the majority of young people with mental disorders do not present to health services with explicit mental health conditions. 

These conditions will commonly remain hidden, unless clinicians have the skills to identify them when young people present with other health concerns. 

So what issues do adolescents experience? And what do they seek help for? In this study in India, the author surveyed a group of high school students who had a mean age of about 15 and a half years. 

Two-thirds of both boys and girls reported their health to be good or very good. But still, 81% reported having had a health problem in the previous months that the authors categorized into the following five groups, as outlined here. The leading psychological problems reported by young people were tensions about future careers, concerns about physical appearance, difficulty concentrating, and masturbation. 

The most common behavioral problems were the inability to express feelings, feeling hypersensitive, feeling lonely, misunderstanding parents, and lack of confidence. Now, I find it hard to differentiate the content of what these authors have placed within the psychological from the behavioral category. The issues in the top box, to me, feel very similar to the issues in the bottom box. Were we to combine these two categories, we can see that two-thirds of respondents had concerns around what are broadly called a psychosocial domain. 

When we then look at what constitutes medical and general health concerns, we are faced with a similar challenge. I would also tend to combine these two categories. And, again, if we do that, then around a third of young people also had health issues within the physical health domain. 

So, did these young Indian students seek help for their problems? And if so, from whom did they seek help? 

We can see that boys were most likely to seek help from their friends and their families. While girls were most likely to seek help from their mothers, friends, and also female family members. We don't know how well these sources of help addressed the problem. Hopefully they did. 

What we do know is that only a minority have seen a health professional. In this case, a doctor was the only named option for a health professional in their survey. 

I was surprised by the proportion who had been accompanied to the doctor by a family member, expecting it would be higher, for boys, but particularly for girls. This same study wet out to explore whether there were differences in the rate of seeking help at two different types of clinic. A school-based clinic and a community-based clinic, both run by the same health professionals at no cost to students. 

Convenience seems to matter, with over double the number of students seeing a health professional at the school-based clinic than at the community-based clinic. What was pleasing to see, not shown here, is that it is not just older adolescents who were able to access these services. About 60% of students attending the school-based clinic were aged between 13 and 15 years. 

There was, however, a very different pattern of health issues that students presented to each clinic with. The community-based clinic saw young people primarily for medical concerns, physical health issues. In comparison to a more balanced presentation at the school-based clinic. 

It'd be interesting to think about why this might be the case. What do you think might explain this? Young people experience many barriers to accessing healthcare that are common to both genders and across all socioeconomic groups. Prominent barriers include lack of knowledge of services, fears about confidentiality, and embarrassment about discussing particular health concerns. 

Accessibility is not just about just the physical aspects of being able to get to a clinic in terms of its particular geographic location. A health service that is youth-friendly must be accessible geographically, but also physically in terms of disabled access, particularly culturally, and in all of its procedures, including financial and administrative arrangements. 

On a practical level, a most important consideration for young people is the access to free or minimal-cost healthcare. And, this needs to consider not only the costs of the consultation, but also diagnostic testing and, where possible, treatments, such as drug costs and other treatment costs. 

Most clinicians receive little training in working with adolescents and young adults. 

We should, therefore, not be surprised that many clinicians report that adolescents are the age group that they are least confident consulting. 

Specifically, health professionals, including general practitioners, report that consultations with young people take more time. That young people are challenging to work with in terms of communication difficulties. And the doctors are uncertain about the medical legal status of treating those under 18 years. And are uncertain also about how they manage consultations, with parents present, or indeed, when parents aren't present? 

The good news is that training in adolescent and young adult medicine positively improves the clinical performance of undergraduates and experienced healthcare providers alike from all health disciplines. 

The gap between the burden of disease experienced by the young, and their help-seeking behavior, is one that the healthcare system, and the community, is responsible for reducing, rather than young people. 

A decade ago, the World Health Organization coined the term Adolescent Friendly Health Services, as shorthand for quality healthcare for adolescents. 

The notion of Adolescent Friendly Health Care does not refer to standalone health services, but rather denotes that quality health services provide care to adolescents that meets their needs. That responds to the burden of disease that young people are experiencing now, including health-related behaviors. And that also provides comprehensive, preventable healthcare and anticipatory guidance. 

In almost all settings, adolescents access healthcare through the same services that provide healthcare to the general population, together with some specific opportunities, such as school-based services. 

The principles of adolescent friendly healthcare echo those of quality health systems for all ages within a population. Namely, healthcare that is accessible, acceptable, appropriate, effective, equitable, namely, being able to be reached by all, and healthcare that is safe will also provide quality healthcare to adolescents. 

It is how these aspects are implemented and experienced by the young that differentiates the delivery of healthcare to young people and their families, and it's these issues that we will address in the following lectures. 


Adolescent friendly health services

An agenda for change

Authors:
World Health Organization

Publication details

Number of pages44
Publication date2002
LanguagesEnglish, French
WHO reference numberWHO/FCH/CAH/02.14

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This document is intended for policy makers and progamme managers in both developed and developing countries, as well as decision makers in international organizations supporting public health initiatives in developing countries.

It makes a compelling case for concerted action to improve the quality - and especially the friendliness - of health services to adolescents. Drawing upon case studies from around the world, it reiterates that this can be - and has been done - by non governmental organisations and government bodies working with limited financial resources. It highlights the critical role that adolescents themselves can play, in conjunction with committed adults, to contribute to their own health and well being.

 friends in australia are spending the next 2 years developing this curricula in 100 countries and every kind of sustainability goal communal context from poorest bangladeshi village girls to rich and most isolated american boys

https://www.coursera.org/learn/youth-health/

ultimately anyone i know wants this curriculum to become learner centered and peer to peer and open space beyond the classroom or doctors office

i only have one related experience about this curriculum- i have studied life in the day of for haemophilia boys (4 months work commissioned by a client combination of the uk's main social support network for boys and families and a drugs manufacturer improving the factor 8 market)- in this lifelong learning situations both the boys and the parents and the whole community involved want a back from the future map- so each child and learning circle can know ahead of time the next challenge the boy will have to develop round and the situation it will involve- will he have family around him, will it be learnt at school, will it be learnt away from home

the australians have already  started a worldwide mooc on adolesecent health ; they ased for help at the 400 youth in development summit at the world bank which amy and steph attended

if you are interested there are various things i/we need to know

if a youth (or someone just becoming over 24 years) are you committed to form a peer support group and if so what culture etc will you help focus on or translate

if there are some of these challenges that you most want "education" to free- and you seriously have time to participate do you want me to introduce you to the main editors in australia

if you are an elder are you interested in forming an expert circle and do you want to discuss this with the main editors in australia

if you research george patton at universuity of melbourne and the lancet in london you will see george is saying this i s the biggest unknown curriculum in the whole of medicine so this is the right time to design a school of life in te day of round hubs and virtual modes outside the classroom as much as inside it

  

 ??20 biggest problems adolescents vote for

 

bodily changes

bodily changes that need action eg girls menstruation -we are told this is michelle obama's main future focus and that she announced this at the first ladies of china g20 in hangzhou

 

making non-sexual friendships

how to host peer discussion/brainstorm around issues in community

teamwork

 

emerging sexual friendships

first sex with another person

first sex with self masturbation

 

peer pressure

personal safety from other people

bullying

money

livelihood skills, jobs -geographical opportunities and risks

 

3ds

diet

drink

drugs

 

first contexts of leaving home

first contexts of being financially self-sufficient

decision about whether to start living alone or with another person 

any history of abuse 

history of seeing people die

 

conflicting pressures on diary time- and transport etc contexts each day, time zone

 

sleeping patterns

overall happiness versus anxiety

 

environmental context including intergenerational mood- eg being brought up in a place that is changing fast - for the better of for worse - 

ability/access to network - hope Dr. Paul Farmer on Hope

 culture of love or hate, cultures of trust or distrust

overall spiritual access - eg maharishi, tao, zen "Why I love The Maharishi Institute"

....

 

 contexts that change what actions need learning

girl

boy

each age from 8 up

whether have elder sibling of same sex who has sucecssfully been through chalege

whether have comfy relationships with parent in discussing any issue

whats the greatest risk to this child's space - by culture, by school, street and home environment, by wealth status, by confidence and ability in formal and informal learning situations, by way projects herself in real and virtual media, by stress of othyer family members or on those she spends most time with

by health and confidence problems already cumulatively experienced (real or perceived )

 

please note list on left hand side iss still being collected - moreover the way children express these issues is often grouped (and experts themselves often dont understand emotional and social intelligence at the most individual level- each child brings a different cumulative experience space) this is one list a study came up with 

 

concerns about physical appearance

hypersensitive

feelings of loneliness

peer pressure or bullying

difficulty concentrating

inability to express feeling

lack of confidence

misunderstanding with parent

masturbation

tension about career

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schooling systems where we have access to design youth and memtor hubs:

west baltimore -ie the communities freddie gray was kiled in

bangladeshi poorest village schools

you tell us

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101ways-generation.docx 101 ways education can save the world WHAT IF WE DESIGNED LIFELONG LIVELIHOOD LOEARNING SO THAT so that teachers & students, parent & communities were empowered to be ahead of 100 times more tech rather than the remnants of a system that puts macihnes and their exhausts ahead of human life and nature's renewal 2016 is arguably the first time thet educatirs became front and centre to the question that Von neummn asked journalist to mediate back in 1951- what goods will peoples do with 100 times more tech per decade? It appears that while multilaterals like the Un got used in soundbite and twittering ages to claim they valued rifghts & inclusion, pubblic goods & safety, they fotgot theirUN tech twin in Genva has been practising global connectivity since 1865, that dellow Goats of V neumnn has chiared Intellectual Cooperation in the 1920s which pervesrely became the quasi trade union Unesco- it took Abedian inspired educations in 2016 ro reunite ed and tecah as well as health and trade ; 7 decades of the UN not valuing Numenn's question at its core is quite late, but if we dare graviate UN2 aeound this digital coperation question now we give the younger half if the world a chnace especially as a billion poorest women have been synchronised to deep community human development since 1970

Dear Robert - you kindly asked for a short email so that you could see if there is a CGTN anchor in east coast who might confidentially share views with my expectation of how only Asian young women cultural movements (parenting and community depth but amplified by transparent tech in life shaping markets eg health, food, nature..) can return sustainability to all of us
three of my father's main surveys in The Economist 1962-1977 explain imo where future history will take us (and so why younger half of world need friendship/sustainable adaptation with Chinese youth -both on mainland and diaspora)
 1962 consider japan approved by JF Kennedy: argued good news - 2 new economic models were emerging through japan korea south and taiwan relevant to all Asia Rising (nrxt to link the whole trading/supply chains of the far east coast down through hong kong and cross-seas at singapore)
1 rural keynsianism ie 100% productivity in village first of all food security- borlaug alumni ending starvation
2 supercity costal trade models which designed hi-tech borderless sme value chains- to build a 20 million person capital or an 8 million person superport you needed the same advances in engineering - partly why this second economic model was win-win for first time since engines begun Glasgow 1760 ; potentially able to leverage tech giant leaps 100 times ahead; the big opportunity von neumann had gifted us - knowhow action networking multiply value application unlike consuming up things
1976 entrepreneurial revolution -translated into italian by prodi - argued that future globalisation big politics big corporate would need to be triangularised by community scaled sme networks- this was both how innovation advancing human lot begins and also the only way to end poverty in the sense of 21st C being such that next girl born can thrive because every community taps in diversity/safety/ valuing child and health as conditions out of which intergenerational economic growth can spring
in 1977 fathers survey of china - argued that there was now great hope that china had found the system designs that would empower a billion people to escape from extreme poverty but ultimately education of the one child generation (its tech for human capabilities) would be pivotal ( parallel 1977 survey looked at the futures of half the world's people ie east of iran)
best chris macrae + 1 240 316 8157 washington DC
IN MORE DETAIL TECH HUMAN EXPONENTIALS LAST CHANCE DECADE? 
 - we are in midst of unprecedented exponential change (dad from 1960s called death of distance) the  tech legacy of von neumann (dad was his biographer due to luckily meeting him in his final years including neumann's scoping of brain science (ie ai and human i) research which he asked yale to continue in his last lecture series). Exponential risks of extinction track to  mainly western top-down errors at crossroads of tech  over last 60 years (as well as non transparent geonomic mapping of how to reconcile what mainly 10 white empires had monopoly done with machines 1760-1945 and embedded in finance - see eg keynes last chapter of general theory of money); so our 2020s destiny is conditioned by quite simple local time-stamped details but ones that have compounded so that root cause and consequence need exact opposite of academic silos- so I hope there are some simple mapping points we can agree sustainability and chinese anchors in particular are now urgently in the middle of
Both my father www.normanmacrae.net at the economist and I (eg co-authoring 1984 book 2025 report, retranslated to 1993 sweden's new vikings) have argued sustainability in early 21st c will depend mostly on how asians as 65% of humans advance and how von neumann (or moores law) 100 times more tech every decade from 1960s is valued by society and business.
My father (awarded Japan's Order of Rising Sun and one time scriptwriter for Prince Charles trips to Japan) had served as teen allied bomber command burma campaign - he therefore had google maps in his head 50 years ahead of most media people, and also believed the world needed peace (dad was only journalist at messina birth of EU ) ; from 1960 his Asian inclusion arguments were almost coincidental to Ezra Vogel who knew much more about Japan=China last 2000 years ( additionally  cultural consciousness of silk road's eastern dynamics not golden rule of Western Whites) and peter drucker's view of organisational systems
(none of the 10 people at the economist my father had mentored continued his work past 1993- 2 key friends died early; then the web turned against education-journalism when west coast ventures got taken over by advertising/commerce instead of permitting 2 webs - one hi-trust educational; the other blah blah. sell sell .sex sell. viral trivial and hate politicking)
although i had worked mainly in the far east eg with unilever because of family responsibilities I never got to china until i started bumping into chinese female graduates at un launch of sdgs in 2015- I got in 8 visits to beijing -guided by them around tsinghua, china centre of globalisation, a chinese elder Ying Lowrey who had worked on smes in usa for 25 years but was not jack ma's biographer in 2015 just as his fintech models (taobao not alibaba) were empowering villagers integration into supply chains; there was a fantastic global edutech conference dec 2016 in Tsinghua region (also 3 briefings by Romano Prodi to students) that I attended connected with  great womens education hero bangladesh's fazle abed;  Abed spent much of hs last decade hosting events with chinese and other asian ambassadors; unite university graduates around sdg projects the world needed in every community but which had first been massively demonstrated in asia - if you like a version of schwarzman scholars but inclusive of places linking all deepest sustainability goals challenges 
and i personally feel learnt a lot from 3 people broadcasting from cgtn you and the 2 ladies liu xin and  tian wei (they always seemed to do balanced interviews even in the middle of trump's hatred campaigns), through them I also became a fan of father and daughter Jin at AIIB ; i attended korea's annual general meet 2017 of aiib; it was fascinating watching bankers for 60 countries each coming up with excuses as to why they would not lead on infrastructure investments (even though the supercity economic model depends on that)
Being a diaspora scot and a mathematician borders (managers who maximise externalisation of risks) scare me; especially rise of nationalist ones ;   it is pretty clear historically that london trapped most of asia in colomisdation ; then bankrupted by world war 2 rushed to independence without the un or anyone helping redesign top-down systems ; this all crashed into bangladesh the first bottom up collaboration women lab ; ironically on health, food security, education bangladesh and chinese village women empowerment depended on sharing almost every village microfranchise between 1972 and 2000 especially on last mile health networking
in dads editing of 2025 from 1984 he had called for massive human awareness by 2001 of mans biggest risk being discrepancies in incomes and expectations of rich and poor nations; he suggested that eg public broadcast media could host a reality tv end poverty entrepreneur competition just as digital media was scaling to be as impactful as mass media
that didnt happen and pretty much every mess - reactions to 9/11, failure to do ai of epidemics as priority from 2005 instead of autonomous cars, failure to end long-term carbon investments, subprime has been rooted in the west not having either government nor big corporate systems necessary to collaboratively value Asian SDG innovations especially with 5g
I am not smart enough to understand how to thread all the politics now going on but in the event that any cgtn journalist wants to chat especially in dc where we could meet I do not see humans preventing extinction without maximising chinese youth (particularly womens dreams); due to covid we lost plans japan had to relaunch value of female athletes - so this and other ways japan and china and korea might have regained joint consciousness look as if they are being lost- in other words both cultural and education networks (not correctly valued by gdp news headlines) may still be our best chance at asian women empowerment saving us all from extinction but that needs off the record brainstorming as I have no idea what a cgtn journalist is free to cover now that trump has turned 75% of americans into seeing china as the enemy instead of looking at what asian policies of usa hurt humans (eg afghanistan is surely a human wrong caused mostly by usa); a; being a diaspora scot i have this naive idea that we need to celebrate happiness of all peoples an stop using media to spiral hatred across nations but I expect that isnt something an anchor can host generally but for example if an anchor really loves ending covid everywhere then at least in that market she needs to want to help united peoples, transparency of deep data etc

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please map how and why - more than 3 in 4 scots earn their livelihoods worldwide not in our homeland- that requires hi-trust as well as hi-tech to try to love all cultures and nature's diversity- until mcdonalds you could use MAC OR MC TO identify our community engaging networks THAT SCALED ROUND STARTING UP THE AGE OF HUMANS AND MACHINES OF GKASGOW UNI 1760 1 2 3 - and the microfranchises they aimed to sustain  locally around each next child born - these days scots hall of fame started in 1760s around   adam smith and james watt and 195 years later glasgow engineering BA fazle abed - we hope biden unites his irish community building though cop26 -ditto we hope kamalA values gandhi- public service - but understand if he or she is too busy iN DC 2021 with covid or finding which democrats or republicans or american people speak bottom-up sustainable goals teachers and enrrepreneurs -zoom with chris.macrae@yahoo.co.uk if you are curious - fanily foundation of the economist's norman macrae- explorer of whether 100 times more tehc every decade since 1945 would end poverty or prove orwell's-big brother trumps -fears correct 2025report.com est1984 or the economist's entreprenerialrevolutionstarted up 1976 with italy/franciscan romano prodi

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